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 Post subject: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:09 pm 
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The purpose of the Analytics eCommerce Tracking Module is to provide a plug-in solution for tracking your site traffic, visitors, conversions and related data via the FREE Google Analytics tracking system. This bundle includes the eCommerce Conversion module that is used to notify the Analytics Tracking Servers of sales or conversion activity taking place on your site and the Analytics Base Tracking Add-On that is used site-wide to notify the Analytics Tracking Servers of the monitored activity taking place on your site.

This package is a bundle which contains multiple products: the add-on is an RCI module and the eCommerce component is a CS Module - no CRE Loaded code is modified during installation. Purchasing the bundle saves you $9.95 over purchasing the individual packages separately.

You can purchase our Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded by clicking the link or visit http://www.newsitedesigns.net/store/pro ... ucts_id=13

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 Post subject: Re: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:26 pm 
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I'm running all of these modules and can't understand how I ever managed my business before. Google's eCommerce section is amazing. I can track all of my sales, where they came from, what they bought, true conversion rates, and tons of other stuff.

My theory has always been... if I can test something I can improve it. Now I actually have all of the data I need to figure out if I'm optimizing for the right keywords, if they are converting into sales, if a banner ad is converting into sales and so much more.

If you are serious about your business. You need this data. By the way, I am not receiving any money or anything for posting about this on here. It's made a marked improvement in my business and in my opinion it's worth a closer look.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:36 am 
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Does this work with the paypal IPN?


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 Post subject: Re: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:05 am 
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Chris,
The short answer is yes.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:25 pm 
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Just FYI, CRE Loaded 6.3 Pro and B2B both include CRE Google Analytics with eCommerce tracking and CRE Google XML Sitemap that supports products/categories, CDS pages/pages categories, FDMS folders/files.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:01 pm 
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datazen wrote:
Just FYI, CRE Loaded 6.3 Pro and B2B both include CRE Google Analytics with eCommerce tracking and CRE Google XML Sitemap that supports products/categories, CDS pages/pages categories, FDMS folders/files.

Enjoy!
Yes,
I really would like to see this code as the tracking issue has plagued all of the contributions that have been released to this point. The basic Analytics tracking is fairly simple and straightforward, but when it comes to the AdWords and Analytics eCommerce tracking, well none of them that I have tried worked correctly. That is what prompted me to write these modules and add-ons.

I wanted something that actually worked and there are a couple of tricks to make this happen that I find hard to believe would have been discovered if this was written by the programmers that have been writing the CRE code to date. Sorry, but the simple mistakes and copying of bad code from one piece to another repeatedly tells me that the people coding this stuff don't really know what they are doing. I'm no PHP guru, but I have found and fixed a great number of these blunders in the code that I run on my sites.

Now in all fairness, if you would like to expose who actually wrote these components originally, we can possibly have a fair discussion on whether they really work or not.

Oh, you didn't mention Adwords tracking - does it have that too?

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 Post subject: Re: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:49 pm 
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Your comments about "CRE Programmers" are completely unfounded. Who do you know on my development team?? From what is your information based?? Do you use CRE Loaded?? If so, why would you use it if you felt the developers were incompetent?? I have been writing and developing code for more than twenty years and I will take on any challenge that you or anyone else can throw.

My reputation speaks for itself ... enough said there.

Now in all fairness, I will expose who wrote this code ... it was me ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:40 pm 
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Well now Scott...

datazen wrote:
Your comments about "CRE Programmers" are completely unfounded. Who do you know on my development team??

You really don't want to know who I know on your development team, but he wouldn't be the one doing this stuff I am pretty sure.

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From what is your information based??

The information is based on FIRST HAND knowledge of the code and the language.

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Do you use CRE Loaded?? If so, why would you use it if you felt the developers were incompetent??

Yes I use CRE, well actually my clients do, and I use it because they purchased it first and then they pay me to fix it up.

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I have been writing and developing code for more than twenty years and I will take on any challenge that you or anyone else can throw.

I've been programming for quite a long time now as well, actually longer than you and on projects much larger than you have probably been exposed to. I can also tell you that there have been many cases where a contribution was installed in CRE and when the code was debugged, the error was an obvious defect was pasted right into the codebase from the contribution, or in some cases replicated from some other part into a new contribution. Now I know that this happens to the best of us, but I have spent years cleaning up CRE code.

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My reputation speaks for itself ... enough said there.
This is true

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Now in all fairness, I will expose who wrote this code ... it was me ;)
And that would explain why you took such offense at my post. So typical of Open Source developers. :roll:


And as for your challenge, clean up the SQL queries before you release another patch - or at least make that part of what you are cleaning up in the patches! That would be a start ;(


I have no desire to engage you in a flame war as it is obvious that I would lose given your position within the organization, however I did feel a need to respond to your comments. You may have a perception that I started this by knocking the CRE code, but if you truly were what you claim then you would not have jumped directly into a flame or rant attacking my credentials.... enough said

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 Post subject: Re: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:15 pm 
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Let me explain ... If you are indeed a developer, then you also know the passion that is created due to the daily work on the codebase. The code sort of becomes your inner-child and when a person such as yourself sees fit to "smash" this passion without merit, it grinds me the wrong way.

There are many very good developers working for CRE and these people work very long hours, weekends, and holidays to make release dates set by upper management. Not all code issues stem from the developers writing code. We create code from what is given to us in the form of a Architectural Spec created by other departments such as Design, Marketing, and Engineering. CRE is no laughing matter. In fact, CRE just received major VC funding. That alone says enough.

Perhaps you ought to have a little faith. CRE is not without it's faults. In the 3 years I have been involved, I have seen many mistakes in all departments. We have worked diligently to listen and repair these mistakes and in the end CRE has always progressed forward.

As far as attacking your credentials, with less than 30 posts in this forum, I have every right to jump and every right to defend the people that work very hard to bring you CRE Loaded. You yourself state you are no PHP guru. Well, I am a PHP guru and therefore have the right to defend my inner-child.

... no flame war intended ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:42 pm 
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You should really consider the fact that people have lives outside of the CRE bubble and merely having 20+ posts does not necessarily make me an idiot nor does it make me incompetent regarding programmer matters. Which basically means that you are supposed to be a professional and given that relationship, you should understand that the number of posts made or not made gives you no right to do anything except professionally state an objection or rebuttal without getting so "passionate" about it that you lose site of your professional position.

That said, I agree that CRE has moved forward as do most organizations that work despite themselves. I have not been impressed with what I have heard about CRE 6.3, but if these things turn out to be untrue, then I will take a new position. Chain Reaction set about on the wrong foot with this whole issue and getting VC doesn't mean that you suddenly have everything together. My experience shows that it usually means you are about to sink!

...No offense intended. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:06 pm 
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...No offense intended. Wink


hmm, ok then what is this:

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I wanted something that actually worked and there are a couple of tricks to make this happen that I find hard to believe would have been discovered if this was written by the programmers that have been writing the CRE code to date.


CRE Google Analytics was written well over a year ago but you can't believe it was CRE? And you also know these programmers?

How about this one:

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Sorry, but the simple mistakes and copying of bad code from one piece to another repeatedly tells me that the people coding this stuff don't really know what they are doing.


Where have you been?? CRE Loaded writes and re-writes most contributions and also writes a lot of custom code that were not contributions at all. We don't know what we're doing?? Sounds like a stab to me.

Oh, and lets not forget this one:

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I'm no PHP guru, but I have found and fixed a great number of these blunders in the code that I run on my sites.


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Now in all fairness, if you would like to expose who actually wrote these components originally, we can possibly have a fair discussion on whether they really work or not.


Nice comment there. So you are trying to say that the code I have written is not actually mine? That perhaps it is yours?? The module was written well over a year ago. Probably would have been good to download 6.3 Pro or B2B and review my code before assuming it was someone else's.

... no offense intended ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:36 pm 
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I see you degraded and didn't pay attention to the PM, so let me put it this way. When you are a professional programmer, working for a company trying to cultivate development support, etc. you don't start off by slamming someone even if they are wrong.

With regards to another issue, I've seen how CRE recodes contributions, most people call that a copyright notice! For example, you can call Chemo's SEO URLs contribution a CRE developed contribution but the fact is you guys don't even know what's in the code. I have a customer who called numerous times to get answers about the add-on and half of the answers were just plain wrong and the other half were, well rhetorical. (And this was after checking with developers!)

Another issue is that CRE takes contributions from osCommerce, modifies them to fit the existing code and takes ownership. Do you have any programming notes from your development of Google Analytics from over a year ago - before I ever heard of the addon? Just to be fair, I don't follow all of the developments of CRE as though it were some sort of bible, and I do modify osCommerce contributions when they can be a starting point, but come on...

Typical Open Source Trash... (Your reaction that is)
Moving On :arrow:

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 Post subject: Re: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
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 Post subject: Re: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:49 pm 
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datazen wrote:
Lets just end this now. Your site http://www.newsitedesigns.net/store/ is a DIRECT rip off of the old CRE Loaded site. You could not even create your own template.

So how about the new cart you are offering ... what's it called ... Phoenix? You are nothing more than another rip off hacker.

Anyone who sees your rip off of a site will know it was old CRE Loaded's site.

I think credibility leans in my direction on this one.

:arrow: moving on!

Yes, and that would be because it was an old Template Monster template, just in case you didn't know that.

Credibility, Gheez - You don't even use your own solutions, and Your development team didn't create the existing template being used by CRE, another side issue.

Oh, and I have created a great many templates over the years using the BTS template system, which hasn't been changed as of 6.2x where it was labeled CRE_legacy throughout the code!! :roll:

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...So how about the new cart you are offering ... what's it called ... Phoenix? You are nothing more than another rip off hacker...


And that would make you???


Since you had to attack me again I felt compelled to respond. I now ask forgiveness for insulting your work.

I'm done!

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 Post subject: Re: Google Analytics Tracking Bundle 2.0 for CRE Loaded
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:24 pm 
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Yes, and that would be because it was an old Template Monster template, just in case you didn't know that.


umm, that would be incorrect. One of my developers created that template as well as the matching one on creforge.com. Neither have been for sale on TM.

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Credibility, Gheez - You don't even use your own solutions, and Your development team didn't create the existing template being used by CRE, another side issue.


We are an open source solution and take ideas from others as well as ourselves. Even Bill Gates doesn't believe in re-inventing the wheel.

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Oh, and I have created a great many templates over the years using the BTS template system, which hasn't been changed as of 6.2x where it was labeled CRE_legacy throughout the code!!


Cool. they should all still work with 6.3

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Since you had to attack me again I felt compelled to respond. I now ask forgiveness for insulting your work.


Hmmm, who attacked who?? .... no matter, you are forgiven ;)

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